SB ACOUSTICS SBA-761 2.5-WAY SATORI KIT

SB ACOUSTICS SBA-761 2.5-WAY SATORI KIT
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Manufacturer: Satori
Product ID : SBA-761 KIT
Weight: 25.00 lbs
Manufacturer: Satori
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SBA-761 2.5-WAY SATORI KIT BY TROELS GRAVESEN

2½-way, 3-driver floor-stander. First of two SB Acoustics speakers designed for the DIY section of the new SBA website!

Kit price includes 10% DISCOUNT ON ALL DRIVERS.

Madisound is pleased to offer the brand-new SBA-761 Kit designed by Troels Gravesen featuring the latest flagship drivers from the high-end SB Satori line: Satori MW19P-8 7.5" Egyptian Papyrus Cone Woofer, Satori MW16P-8 6" Egyptian Papyrus Cone Woofer, and Satori TW29RN-B-8 Ring Dome Tweeter.

Crossovers are custom-built to order by Madisound using Goertz Copper Foil inductors and Mundorf Supreme capacitor in series (103B + Matrix board per channel).

The construction here is the first of two SBA speakers designed for the DIY section of the new SBA website. These two constructions will be "open," displaying the values of crossover components, thus you are free to use whatever components you may favor.  

SBA made this proposition with no further strings attached. I was free to pick whatever drivers I would like and whatever type of speaker I wanted to make, being a floor-stander, stand-mount, or whatever.

A 2½-way with Satori drivers has long been on my to-do list and in particular mating the MW16 and MW19, the latter giving quite a lot extra power in the lower registers. The two drivers are very much alike except for size, thus has the same sonic signature and well suited for a 2½-way despite being slightly different in size.

The MW16+19 combined make some 277 cm2 membrane area, close to a 10" bass driver and it pays off in bass and not least upper-bass and lower midrange. This is a very important frequency range giving volume to grand piano and the cello and if good, makes us - at least for some time - forget about the missing 15" bass driver. We can't have it all from a skinny floor-stander, but getting this frequency range right we've come a long way.
 
The MW16 is one of the few drivers allowing a 1st order crossover, thus just a single coil to this driver. Overall the crossover topology is much inspired by my two most recent constructions, thus no high-pass filter for the MW16 and having this in an smaller aperiodic cabinet allows quite some power handling.

The TW29RN-B-8 is a premium ring dome tweeter offered in the Satori line by SB Acoustics. This tweeter has many advanced technology features that culminate in very detailed and low distortion output: a perfect choice in any high end system. Compact neodymium magnet version (less than 1" depth from back of flange to base). 




System specs

Dimensions: 22cm (8.7") W x 28cm (11") D x 108cm (42.5") H (including feet).
System sensitivity: 90 dB/2.8V/1 meter.
Impedance: 4-8 Ohms.
Point of crossover: 2300 Hz.
Power requirement: 20+ watts/channel.
Power handling: 100 watts. Please also read: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/power-handling.htm, and remember any burned driver is a misused driver.

Crossover

The filter features a 1st order topology and overall simplicity. R4/C2 help suppressing at little too much energy of the MW19 in the 5-10 kHz range. I've tried it with and without this RC circuit and it's clearly audible when running the MW19 alone, not so much when all drivers are connected, yet I find it worth while not having the MW19 mingle with the treble range, even a little bit.

Should you choose different brand coils L3 can be 0.2-0.5 Ohm, L2 0.1-0.4 Ohm and L1 0.1-0.3 Ohm.
When it comes to crossover layout, please also read this page: http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/LCR-RC.htm










Enclosure

Cabinets were made from 20 mm Baltic birch throughout. 19-22 mm MDF can be used. No further drawings or CAD files available. This is as simple as it gets. Around 2.5 sqm of 20 mm Baltic birch/MDF should be enough for two cabinets.

All internal panels except front panels were added 8 mm felt damping. 1.5 sqm in kit.

MW16 cabinet was added 125 grams wool and the Ø50 x 100 mm port stuffed with a roll of 100 x 150 mm acoustilux. The MW19 cabinet was added two layers of acoustilux on top and behind driver, 18 x 50 cm. See photo.

The cavities next to the port at the bottom were added 2 pieces of folded acoustilux, 18 x 50 cm. In total 12 pcs of 18 x 50 cm = ~1.08 sqm acoustilux. 1.2 sqm provided in kit.

Height above floor is 30-40 mm. I use 30 mm and the impedance graphs below is recorded with this height. The crossover can be placed on the rear panel behind MW19 driver. You can also place the crossover at bottom to the rear by making a bigger hatch and even seal off the crossover by placing a top on the cavity like seen below. Increase cabinet depth to compensate for loss of volume.

As always: Any change to front panel dimensions, layout or drivers' placement and you need a new crossover - and I can't help.






Measurements

A few comments on MEASUREMENTS before you start interpreting the readings below.

First of all, if we think measurements will tell us how a speaker sounds, we're wrong. The perception of sound is way too subjective to be reflected in any measurements we can perform. A loudspeaker system is meant to give us a satisfying idea of an acoustic event and for some people a pair of 5 USD ear-plugs are enough, others spend 200 kUSD on a truly full-range pair of speakers - and the latter may not be happier than the former.

Measurements may give us an idea of tonal balance of a system, i.e. too much or too little energy in certain areas, although dispersion characteristics play a vital role here. A two-way 7+1 and a three-way 7+4+1 may display similar horizontal dispersion, yet sound very different. Measurements may tell us about bass extension if far-field measurements are merged with near-field measurements. In addition to this, ports may contribute to bass extension. Most of we diy'ers do not have access to an anechoic room for full-range measurements from 20-20000 Hz. 
 
What cannot be seen is what kind of bass performance we get in a given room. Bass performance is highly dependent on in-room placement of your speaker and the same speaker can be boomy in one place and lean in another. Actual SPL level at 1 meter distance and 2.8V input is useful for en estimate of system sensitivity and combined with the impedance profile may give an idea of how powerful an amplifier is needed to drive the speaker to adequate levels.

What measurements do not tell is the very sound of the speaker unless displaying serious linear distortion. The level of transparency, the ability to resolve micro-details, the "speed" of the bass, etc., cannot be derived from these data. Distortion measurements rarely tell much unless seriously bad, and most modern drivers display low distortion within their specified operating range. 

Many people put way too much into these graphs and my comments here are only meant as warning against over-interpretation. There are more to good sound than what can be extracted from a few graphs. Every graph needs interpretation in terms of what it means sonically and how it impacts our choice of mating drivers, cabinet and crossover design.

What measurements certainly do not tell is the sonic signature of the speaker, because speaker cones made from polypropylene, aluminum, Kevlar, paper, glass fiber, carbon fiber, magnesium, ceramics or even diamonds all have their way of adding spices to the stew. Nor do measurements tell what impact the quality of the crossover components add to the sound, from state of the art components to the cheapest of coils and caps, they all measure the same if values are correct, yet sound very different.

Overall system sensitivity is around 90 dB/2.8V/1meter.



Final system impedance. Minimum 3.7 Ohms. Fairly easy load on the amplifier. As said, my 32 wpc tube amps runs these speakers with grace and punch.




Distortion measured at 0.25 m distance @ 2.8V input. Green = 2nd harm., blue = 3rd harm. 


Designer notes

The tweeter works 1st order down to around 2 kHz from where it gradually declines 2nd to 4th order.

The sound of speakers featuring 1st order crossovers may sound quite different from what we're used to. The naturalness of treble and midrange is unusual, and so is the dynamics. I find the SBA-761 extremely dynamic with a strong midrange presence that never gets aggressive - given you have good amplifications and source material.

Having the 7½" MW19 helping at the bottom really helps throwing a decent punch and bottom weight given the overall modest size of the speaker.

My EAR-861, 32 wpc tube amp, just loves these 90 dB speakers and playing the 45 rpm Mare Nostrum LP just sounds marvelous. Unfortunately I don't have my NOMEX-164-mkII any more, which would be a reasonable comparison, but I'm sure this SBA-761 betters the NOMEX, albeit at a higher price. Very few drivers can be run 1st order - but the MW16 can.
Equally well does the phenomenal 45 rpm LP from Vincent Belanger. The cello here comes with a credible low-end weight this recording demands.

Fine-tuning the SBA-761 made me go through a wider range of my recordings than usual. Again 1st order filters throw a more truthful presentation and clearly demonstrates that phase shifts are one of the enemies of hi fidelity. The flute, the obo, the violin, etc., came with a vivid, yet smooth presentation without any harshness to the ear, something we've gotten so used to that we think this is the way things must sound. I'm not pointing fingers because there are a lot of good speakers out there that doesn't use 1st order filters - in fact most of them - and some of them sounds darn good. Every speaker is a compromise from design priorities.

Two Be dome tweeters were tested in this application, the TW29BN-B-8 and SB29BAC-C000-4 and I wasn't completely satisfied with the tonal balance. Due to the first order crossover, we have a little too much energy in the 4-6 kHz range and too little energy above 10 kHz. If you're for a more vivid treble presentation you may try the TW29BN-B-8 without any changes other than setting R1 to 6.8 Ohm. I think the TW29RN-B-8 is the best, but the choice is yours. With the 4 Ohm SB29BAC-C000-4, the tweeter section must be re-worked. I haven't done this and shall not, so please don't ask.

Useful links

http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/tips.htm
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/crossovers.htm
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/LCR-RC.htm

FAQ
  • You cannot change cabinet front panel dimensions and drivers' placement without needing a new crossover - and I cannot help.
  • You cannot use any other drivers with the crossover shown here.
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